Thursday, September 06, 2007

Educating Ron Paul, Part III

The title of my series of posts come from Ron Paul followers who scrambled for damage control after Ron had his ass handed to him by Rudy in the first GOP presidential debate.

Ron Paul is an inconsequential candidate. He is unelectable because he is not to be taken seriously. His understanding of U.S. foreign policy- or lack thereof- will get us all a step closer to living under Sharia Law.

From Wednesday night's debate (via, NYTimes):

One of the evening’s most heated moments came during a prolonged exchange over the war between Representative Ron Paul of Texas, the lone antiwar candidate on stage, and Mr. Huckabee.

Mr. Huckabee found himself in a position that has more typically been reserved for Mr. McCain, mounting a rousing defense of the position of the Republican base in support of the war.

“Well, what we did in Iraq, we essentially broke it. It’s our responsibility to do the best we can to try to fix it before we just turn away.”

But Mr. Paul argued: “The American people didn’t go in. A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservatives hijacked our foreign policy. They’re responsible, not the American people. They’re not responsible. We shouldn’t punish them.”

Mr. Huckabee responded: “Congressman, we are one nation. We can’t be divided. We have to be one nation, under God. That means, if we make a mistake, we make it as a single country: the United States of America, not the divided states of America.”

A small number of "neoconservatives hijacked our foreign policy"?!? No wonder so many Ronulans are 9/11 Truthers, and are believers in neocon conspiracies about the North American Union, Security and Prosperity Partnership for North America, and Project for the New American Century.

Regarding Iraq, I seem to recall that this Administration and the previous one made "regime change" in Iraq an American policy; not a "neoconservative" position. Both the majority in the House and in the Senate supported the President in authorizing the war resolution; and the vast majority of the American public also supported going to war.

Ron Paul has been critical of American foreign policy stretching back to the Korean and Vietnam Wars. Were the neocons responsible back then, as well, for "hijacking" American foreign policy?

Huckabee and Paul broke lances further:

REP. PAUL: No! We’ve dug a hole for ourselves and we dug a hole for our party!

We’re losing elections and we’re going down next year if we don’t change it, and it has all to do with foreign policy, and we have to wake up to this fact.

MR. HUCKABEE: Even if we lose elections, we should not lose our honor, and that is more important to the Republican Party.

Whatever happened to "honor"? Staying in Iraq, regardless of the pricetag, because it is the right thing to do. Huckabee invoked the pottery barn rule, earlier: "You break it, you own it."

Huckabee understands the importance of honor. Ron Paul only understands the importance of "saving face" and looking good in the eyes of the world. That's what the blame-America-first hand-wringers do. Qualities unbecoming of a U.S. President.


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9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You proved yourself to be an idiot troll after your first paragraph.

How exactly did Rudy spank Paul again? By showing his ignorance? Its even funnier how you link the Educating Rudy video, but apparently you didnt even watch it.

Guess some people can't handle the truth. Have fun with your head in the sand. Remember, they hate us for our freedoms! 9/11 9/11 Terrorism Terrorism! Be afraid! BOO!

Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:36:00 PM  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

I wrote a letter to the Ron Paul campaign and offered to make Mr. Paul his very own custom-fitted tinfoil hat from my personal roll of Reynolds Wrap. I have not yet received a reply from his campaign headquarters.

Anonymous: get a name. A handful of credibility would be good too, while you're at it.

BZ

Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:00:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Thank you, anon! Please come back for my foreign policy post. I'll put that one up in the next day or so. You can spar with that one all you want. It'll address the Rudy-Ron debate. I watched that video several times, btw. And couldn't stop laughing at first...then I just felt sad. Sad for Ron Paul and Michael Scheuer, that you can be experts in your field, but just plain wrong. Just like Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky are "experts" on American history. And screwed up in the head.

Stick around, bub. The fun's just begun.

bz, I saw that on one of your comments somewhere. I believe I've seen a photoshop of Ron Paul with a tinfoil hat on. Or was that a real photo....?

Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo, paulbot, you forgot to insert one of those inane links you love so much in your spam. Get it right next time.

Skul

Friday, September 07, 2007 7:43:00 AM  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Wordsmith: no, that was a real photo, no 'shopping. That's why I offered: his current had looked a bit too wrinkled; I thought he needed a new one.

BZ

Friday, September 07, 2007 9:00:00 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

I might add on the Policy side of this whole Iraq war subject that the Iraq Liberation Act was signed into law by then President Bill Clinton in 1998.

I do believe Ron Paul needs to be fitted for a straight jacket.

Friday, September 07, 2007 9:48:00 AM  
Blogger DenisL said...

Interesting!
I would be curious to know how folks ranked the debate winners on Wednesday. I ranked them as:
1. Ron Paul
2. Mike Huckabee
3. McCain
4. Giuliani
5. Romney
6. Rest
After listening to eveyone's comments, I had thought that Paul won the argument with Huckabee. WMDs, or the "idea" of them influenced a lot of congress critters. It was the neocons that used that as the convincing reason to go into Iraq. I would think that would be the reason that Paul said the neocons hijacked us into this war. It is SO VERY scary to me that Huckabee was the 2nd best man on the stage.
Thank God for Ron Paul!!
Anyway, these debates are VERY good practice for when we need to deal with the democrats next
year!

Friday, September 07, 2007 2:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Denisl, you couldn't rank a fight between a po'd pit-bull and a squirrel.

Skul

Friday, September 07, 2007 6:00:00 PM  
Blogger Dee said...

Well, you got a couple more cultists with this post.

Another great post, and I see you have been busy by the number of posts since yesterday.

Friday, September 07, 2007 6:29:00 PM  

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