Sparks from the Anvil Endorses Rudy Giuliani
Five year-old Abby O'Brien waits for Republican presidential candidate and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani to arrive for a campaign stop in Derry, New Hampshire August 16, 2007.REUTERS/Brian Snyder
Any questions?
Labels: Election 2008, Personal, Rudy Giuliani
posted by The WordSmith from Nantucket at 1/01/2008 10:00:00 PM
29 Comments:
"Any questions?"
Yes. Will you be posting this at Flopping Aces?
Lol. Only if I have any substance to add to my endorsement.
I'm too busy to deal with a barrage of questions from FA readers.
This was just a quickie post to get you off my back, while I'm eating.
I've got a spare rib in my hand as I type this.
Why not just post your announcement? Unless of course you feel the need to write a longer post.
I didn't get much response at F.A. excelpt bbartlog. But he won't promise to support the eventual nominee and thus doesn't deserve the fullest consideration of his viewpoint.
I don't think anyone really cares about my "opinion", really.
But If I come up with an endorsement post, maybe.
Yours was very good, of course, and worthy of disbursement.
Wow, I am almost compelled to switch my endorsement to Rudy as well. It seems the bloggers I admire the most have picked Gulianni... Dee, YOU, Mike.. Hmmmm.. I must say I am being challenged here!
A lot of good people have endorsed Fred Thompson, rivka.
Thank you, Wordsmith, for bringing up the fact that many "good people" are endorsing Fred Thomson, since I'm one of those doing so. :)
I will not be too disappointed if Rudy gets it, like I would be if Huckabee or Romney get it. I will feel like leaving the country if Ron Paul gets it!
I'm glad you have finally decided who to back. Congratulations!
I have a question. I thought you were supporting the Mormon?? Don't make me use a Mormon curse on you!!
If Fred doesnt do well soon, I may jump on the Rudy bandwagon myself.
I hope Fred comes in at least in the top 3 in Iowa.
I really want Fred, but if he doesnt start picking up the pace soon, I may have to shop around myself.
As one who has already endorsed Fred, I can agree with you in the fact that if Rudy gets the GOP nod, I will have no problem in voting for him.
Wow. Despite all this, I still am of two or more minds and cannot yet commit.
BZ
I agree that I'll have no problem voting for Rudy if Fred doesn't make it, but I can't help hoping that he does!
Wow, I am almost compelled to switch my endorsement to Rudy as well.
My minimalist, non-explanatory post won you over, huh, rivka?
And to think that Mike's resident evil moonbat calls nicknames me "verbosity".
gayle,
curt's been blogpaigning hard since he endorsed Fred. You'd be encouraged, as the energy is very infectious and persuasive.
Of course, that doesn't quite explain how mike and myself are going to the Rudy camp.
I have a question. I thought you were supporting the Mormon?? Don't make me use a Mormon curse on you!!
Didn't you already give us the curse, by inflicting Romney on the GOP?
J/K!!!! I don't dislike Romney at all. He is perhaps the most presidential. Picture-perfect, slick, his talking points well-groomed....
And that's part of the thing. I just think he comes across as a bit "contrived". Even when he talks of "jihad" and "Islamo-fascism", the terms roll off of his lips like he is consciously using those terms for political traction, and not necessarily because of core-beliefs on the Islamist threat. Of course, if he graduated to the next level of understanding, and labeled the Islamists we are at war with as "hirabahists", then my ears would prick up more.
He's also turned me off with his squabbles with Huckabee. It's juvenile; and the excuses about why he's engaging in the mud-slinging is lame. It's still, in the end, mud-slinging. They are both hurting their campaigns, no matter how "nice" about it, they think they are being.
If Romney is the nominee, I will back him 100%, though.
I was also bothered, a while back, by his response to an inappropriate chickenhawk question about why his children don't serve. Lame answer, he gave. Embarrassingly lame.
If Fred doesnt do well soon, I may jump on the Rudy bandwagon myself.
marie,
Plenty of room on the wagon. But don't count Fred out, just yet.
A big part of my decision on Rudy has to do with his electability in the general election cycle. We need the independent voters, and could even use Democratic voters, who might swing our way, should they be Democrats who recognize the Islamist threat, from which the Democratic candidates are clueless.
Rudy straddles the line on the value voters and social conservatives.
As bz is wont to mention, Giuliani is campaigning on the promise to elect strict constructionists. The fact that he is not a pro-lifer, at heart, might also win over moderates, from the center-left.
ken and gayle,
I will pledge whoever my Party elects to lead us to victory against the Party with whom I agree with, practically zero percent of the time.
Of course, I will take that pledge back, if the unlikely nominee became Ron Paul.
That would make me do some serious soul-searching, due to foreign policy.
verp
RUDY? Dude, Rudy might pick Hillary as VP if she doesn't get the demorat nod.
Don't see much conservative in Rudy.
Did you see the Thompson video?
RUDY? Dude, Rudy might pick Hillary as VP if she doesn't get the demorat nod.
You're joking, right? Like Giuliani joking:
From, I believe, the 4th GOP debate:
WALLACE: Mayor Giuliani, you trail Clinton by four points in our latest Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll.
Governor Romney says the Republicans aren't going to beat Hillary Clinton by acting like Hillary Clinton. And the point seems to be that on a lot of the social issues, like abortion and gay rights and gun control, that there's not much difference between you and Clinton. Is there?
GIULIANI: You got to be kidding.
(LAUGHTER)
You have got to be kidding.
Wait a second. There is -- there are two things I agree with Hillary Clinton on. First of all, we're both Yankee fans.
(LAUGHTER)
Well, wait a second. I became a Yankee fan growing up in New York. She became a Yankee fan growing up in Chicago.
(LAUGHTER)
Do you believe that?
(LAUGHTER)
Second, she made a statement last week -- and I've been very critical of her, but I want to tell her I agree with this one. Quote, Hillary Clinton, I have a million ideas; America cannot afford them all.
(LAUGHTER)
I'm not making it up. I am not making it up.
One more time, I have a million ideas, America can’t afford them all.
No kidding, Hillary. America can’t afford you.
WALLACE: Mayor, Mayor, I’m going to give you 30 more seconds because I want to – you made a big point on the campaign trail about how you know how to beat Senator Clinton. But the fact is, I looked today at the latest polls in all the key battleground states: Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio – you trail her in all three.
GIULIANI: Almost every one of them is within the statistical margin of error, and, and, if those polls are correct, then the president of the United States right now is John Kerry last time I checked.
If those polls are correct, we’d have Al Gore here to – I don’t know, it might be a little colder, I’m not sure. But I’m not sure we’d be any better off. Right, we’d be in a lot worse shape with Al Gore.
Thank, thank you Florida.
(LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE)
GIULIANI: Thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
You saved us in 2000. That was a big one.
(LAUGHTER)
I'd also like to note, on behalf of all my Republican colleagues, we're not going to boycott Florida the way the Democrats are.
(APPLAUSE)
We're going to be here, campaigning for your vote.
Don't see much conservative in Rudy.
Why not? George Wills believes Giuliani ran the most conservative city government in 50 years.
A conservative's conservative will never win the general election. The country is not 100% to the right.
Did you see the Thompson video?
Go to FA. Every other post is all about Fred. What did you glean from the video, stew?
One other thing to mormonbradybunchdad:
I really loved- LOVED!- Romney's speech on religious faith. Enough to almost woo me over...
...if not for some of the other things coming out of his mouth. I just don't know how much I can trust him. He's almost too perfect and presidential, in a way.
Even Giuliani likes Fred:
MR. HUME: Mr. Mayor, your thoughts?
MR. GIULIANI: I like Fred a lot. I think Fred is a really, really good man. I think he’s done a pretty good job of playing my part on "Law & Order." (Laughter.)
Will you throw your support to Fred Thompson when Rudy fizzles?
I'm still with Fred, but will vote for Rudy if absolutely necessary.
Incidently, "wordsmith" was one of the words voted to be banned this year by that unheard of Michigan University that bans annoying words and phrases.
I think they're wrong.
Will you throw your support to Fred Thompson when Rudy fizzles?
If Fred wins the nomination, I'll support him 100%, as I stated already, somewhere in this comment thread.
I'm not sure how much confidence I have in his "charisma" factor, given how much buzz I sense in the air, around my parts, for the kind of "youth" and "change" that an Obama seems to represent. "Change" is more than just a campaign slogan in the Obama camp. There has been a lot of wishful thinking surrounding that buzzword.
Incidently, "wordsmith" was one of the words voted to be banned this year by that unheard of Michigan University that bans annoying words and phrases.
It's just rather overused, I think.
I've liked it long ago, as it reminds of the kennings found in Icelandic Sagas and in Beowulf.
I think they're wrong.
Your opinion matters to me Word. I think you're a pretty straight shooter. Rudy is a good man and I will vote for the Republican nominee when you guys get done choosing him. I do like Mitt Romney just a smidgen better.
Come April when PA holds our primary the only thing I'll be doing at the polls is grinding on my school board candidates that seem to always have to go to the bathroom when they see me and Maryjane (my pick up truck) pull into the school parking lot.
j_g,
If it were merely a matter of substance, I think any of the top tier candidates can smoke the Dems.
Unfortunately, there are superficial factors that play into this.
Rudy, Fred, Romney...even McCain...reluctantly Huck, out of the top tier candidates, I can get behind.
Yes I'm joking. About THAT. Not the rest though.
Wills believes Giuliani ran the most conservative city government in 50 years.
So how would you square that with Rudy's pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, anti gun (flaunting derision on the Constitution?) adulterous and flamingly moderate stance?
I'm not asking for "a conservative's conservative", but I, unlike most other Americans and likely your readers (and you), own a small business. It's getting near impossible to do business in todays climate. This stems from our politicians abandoning the things that made America strong in the first place. Namely the Constitution.
I'd like to see a candidate that at very least respects the backbone of America and will reverse the insane shredding of the Constitution performed by both "Conservatives" (under the mantel of Social Conservative) and Liberals.
I honestly do not see this in Rudy and the "Social Conservative" thing scares the crap out of me.
So how would you square that with Rudy's pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, anti gun (flaunting derision on the Constitution?) adulterous
I would say that this is a mischaracterization. Would you call President Bush "pro-amnesty" for trying to push for comprehensive immigration reform?
Rudy says he abhors abortion; but believes, PERSONALLY, in the right to choose. What he has promised, is to elect strict constructionist judges in the same vein as the ones President Bush elected.
The issue of abortion, like the issue of gun-control, he feels, should be left to the state and local levels. Not federal.
and flamingly moderate stance?
Read: radical center-right extremist. That's me.
This stems from our politicians abandoning the things that made America strong in the first place. Namely the Constitution.
So why not go with the Constitutional Pied Piper, Ron Paul?
Like Mike's America, what I see in Giuliani is leadership and electability. Not just 9/11; but he's proven himself capable of coming through in a crisis, as he did during Reagan's assassination attempt.
We live in dangerous times, and I think America needs leadership.
Stew: If you don't see much conservative in Rudy it's because you aren't trying.
I remember Times SQuare in New York before Rudy. It was all pimps, prostitutes, porn shops and druggies.
Go there now.
Can't be anything more conservative than cleaning up that mess and reducing crime and abortions while increasing adoptions.
Something Huck can't brag about
P.S. Stop eating, step away from the buffet and post this at FA
Just don't bumpt the chat
Word,
Oh by all means I'm not counting Fred out, I just hope he shows up in the top 3 in Iowa!
I want him to put to rest the notion that he is a lazy campaigner.
But if he does decide to drop out at some point, I will have to shop :-(
You know what I love? The ability to have a discussion without vitriolic personal attacks.
Good points. Maybe I need to re-evaluate my predisposed notions on Rudy. I still think that Fred is the closest to an actual conservative that I'd like to see. Plus he has a smoldering hot wife.
I still think that Fred is the closest to an actual conservative that I'd like to see.
You're probably right. If it were simply a matter of who best represents conservatism, it might well be Fred. And I have all the respect in the world for those who wish to support him in the primary. On sheer substance, he has a chance of winning. My decision to go with Rudy, is a gamble. And it has to do with my looking ahead, anticipating how the general election may turnout.
I'm thinking of making a post on why electability should be a factor in one's decision-making, and that it is a principled position to take.
I was listening to guest-host Bree Walker on Air America all week, subbing for Stephanie Miller, and today she announced how she was supporting Kucinich, and dissed anyone who supports candidates based upon electability.
Plus he has a smoldering hot wife.
Good point. Maybe that makes up for the charisma-factor? Maybe Hugh Hefner will begin the "Playboy bunnies for Fred" endorsement?
and the "Social Conservative" thing scares the crap out of me.
Of course. Given how every other post you make has to do with hot women.
STILL not posted at FA!
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