Tuesday, February 27, 2007

The Chickenhawk "Argument"

"Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell

Are limousine liberals chickenhawks on the war against global warming?! Why aren't these armchair eco-warriors making the necessary sacrifices if they truly believe that the planet is approaching an apocalyptic, ecological end of days? Turning off lights, recycling cans, driving hybrids, hugging trees, and handing out honorary doctorates and Oscar-nods to has-been politicians is hardly going far enough to save the planet, do you think? That is...if they truly believe that we are in as dire a peril as they say that they believe, we are in.

Is John Edwards a chickenhawk on the War on Poverty? Not because he lives in one America while the poor he "champions" live in the other; but because he doesn't do anything to create more wealth for society; as a trial lawyer, he leached off of it. Liberals like him want to take YOUR money, and redistribute it, while they themselves do what they can to find loopholes in the tax system; while they are not taxed on wealth, they will make it impossible for anyone else to become wealthy. Their nanny state utopia would accomplish one thing: it would make us all equally poor.


When anti-war liberals want to shut down debate, they pull out the chickenhawk card, and wave it around like an ace in the deck. It is not. It is a joker in the deck. The chickenhawk argument is no argument at all.

Yesterday, an occasional blog visitor, who is a blue star mom against the current conflict in Iraq, left the following comment in a recent post:
Wordsmith, I still don't understand why a young strong guy like you who supports what we are doing in Iraq isn't joining up to help. I don't get it. If it is that important to you that we "win" (whatever that means) then why are you refusing to lend a helping hand and be all you can be? What are you waiting for? It makes no sense to me. You think you support the troops, but in reality you don't. You deceive yourself. You don't have a clue.

My son is done. Now it's your turn.

Not as eloquent and thorough as I want it to be, but here's part of my response:
First off, you have no idea what I do or don't do, in terms of support. There are many ways to support the troops.

Second, I don't disparage anyone who doesn't "sign up". Military service is not for everyone. There are other ways to support the war effort, patriotically, without ever putting on a uniform. Will you disparage those in uniform who do not serve on the frontlines, as a combat infantryman? The majority of soldiers never ever get to fire a shot at the "bad guys". Do the opinions of those in direct combat trump the voices of the military chaplains, the mechanics, the cooks, the intelligence analysts, etc. sitting back at the base?

Frankly, I could give a rat's ass if all the pro-war Republicans are cowards. That they are afraid of combat and afraid to die. I'm ok with it. Because do you know why? Because many of these so-called chickenhawks appreciate the troops, for the very fact that these men and women are placing their lives in danger to keep the rest of us safe. They are the warriors of society that keep our children safe and make my livelihood possible. And because of that, I have a deep sense of gratitude and appreciation for what our men and women in uniform are doing on our behalf. We owe them everything!

Go to any conservative blog, and 10 times out of 10, I wager, these blogs are deeply appreciative of what soldiers do on a routine basis.
We don't take their service and sacrifice lightly. I can't say the same thing about many of the lefty blogs I've visited.

What do they post on Memorial Day or Veteran's Day? Most of what I saw, were just anti-war/anti-Bush screeds. Nothing to really say, honoring soldiers; just using the occasions to disparage the current war, and use the memory of soldiers for political fodder.


Do you believe in fighting fires? Do you believe in criminals being stopped, Marty? Because that's dangerous work. I think last I heard, Los Angeles was experiencing a shortage of LAPD officers. Why aren't you out there, supporting law enforcement by signing up? Why do they have to be the ones to place their lives in jeopardy with every car they pull over; with every home they investigate for disturbance of the peace? Why do they have to be the ones out there, protecting society from being victimized by career criminals?

Do you know what the most dangerous profession is, Marty? It's being a fisherman. I believe being a logger is the second most dangerous, but I can't remember, precisely. So, do you like to eat seafood? Are you a chickenhawk of the sea, for not risking your life out on fishing boats? Perhaps you do catch your own fish...perhaps not. Why should I care? I don't.

The chickenhawk argument doesn't fly with me, Marty. Not one wit. Because it's no argument at all. It is merely a ploy, designed to shut down debate, as one soldier put it.
Realizing that Marty and I have been down this road before, I looked it up, and sure enough, we had this conversation already. It's a bit frightening at how closely I echoed the same sentiments and line of analogy then that I did in my response above. (In other words: I need new material). But what has changed, is this:

Early this year, I sought out military service, and settled on signing on to the National Guard, with the possibility of transitioning to regular army, later on. I scored high enough on my ASVAB, that I could have gotten just about anything I wanted for my Military Occupational Specialty (or so I was told). My recruiter said they were short on military intelligence, and put it down as my first choice; although I wasn't sure which of my 3 picks to go with. I wanted all three (training in multiple MOS's is definitely possible). She listed "combat infantry" and "cavalry scout" as my 2nd and third picks.

Well, as it turns out, I was being processed rather quickly, and something in my records hadn't been taken care of which disqualified me for the time being, in pursuing my first choice. My counselor asked, "what do you want? Money or adventure?" I said a little of both, would be nice. He put me down for my second MOS pick: combat infantry. I guess that would be more in line with "adventure".

I was hoping by my birthday (which was and is today), I would have been sworn in by now. That hasn't happened, sad to say.

During my medical physical last month, I had to go through MEPS 3 times. I am .05 over on the refractory limits of my eyesight. We did what we could to try to get the doctor to pass me through, and it was a royal pain of much wasted time and waiting. I lucked out in seeing a consult, fairly quickly after not being greenlighted by the doctor. But I am still waiting on a medical waiver. I should get it; but I don't know how much longer I will have to wait, before that happens.

Because of work commitments and attempts to accommodate my bosses, I requested my shipping date for basic training be in the summer or after summer, anyway. This might be a good thing; because I have not worked out much in 6 years. I'm a former collegiate athlete, but found out I'm 35 pounds overweight. And it ain't muscle. There's nothing quite like a fat gymnast (here's what I used to look like, liberal shirt and all). Actually, the fat doesn't really show that much on me. But I can certainly feel that extra 35 pounds, weighing me down, hidden from somewhere. So, between now and summer, I may be blogging less in order to spend the blogtime, shaving off the pounds before I get to boot camp. I understand they like to do a lot of push-ups.

I think my growing worry is how my body will hold up. In some ways, I'm stronger than most people (I can still crank out 30 chin ups in a row and do handstand push-ups without a wall). But my right shoulder gives me problems on regular push-ups and dips- anything to do with being in a support position (I had arthroscopic surgery in college, and the shoulder's gotten worse, with disuse); and my neck gives me problems, from boxing and submission grappling when I was younger (oh, and also landing on my head on the trampoline). In fact, as I sit here typing, it sometimes gets numb. Hopefully, as I get back on a training regiment, the injuries will subside and be counteracted upon by a diet of regular conditioning and rehab, on my part.

It's been interesting to have liberal friends of mine try and talk me out of enlisting. (Marty, of course, is not a friend of mine, does not care a wit about me, and wants me to enlist, because she disagrees with me politically, and seeks to intimidate with the chickenhawk card). My military parents and conservative friends, however, have been nothing short of supportive and encouraging.

I may have to do a post after I am finally in, to explain to my anti-war/anti-Bush friends my reasons for wanting to serve in the military. I am just exhausted from justifying myself, over and over through so many email back-and-forths, for the last month.

By the way: today, I turned 39. Hooah! And ugh!

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41 Comments:

Anonymous Kate said...

Well, Happy B-Day ya old fart! LOL I'll always be older than you, though, perhaps not wiser. :)

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:12:00 PM  
Blogger airforcewife said...

Wow, I'm so impressed. And I say that very, very humbly.

I do hope that I'll be able to add you to my "soldier's Angel list" when you're at basic. Two of my guys have just rotated out and I'm short on people to smother.

And if you get MI, definately let us know. :)

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:40:00 PM  
Blogger Marty said...

Well, well.. you have caused me to eat my words. Good on ya fella! I am proud of you. You are wrong about me though. I do care.

In the words of Sgt. Camillo Mejia in the film "The Ground Truth", speaking of his decision to become a conscientious objector, said "There is no higher freedom that can be achieved than the freedom we achieve when we follow our conscience. And that's something we can live by and never regret." This is true not only for those who choose to lay down their arms, but also for those who choose to take up arms in a war they strongly believe in. This is what you have done. And I respect you for it. Either way, it requires courage. I salute you for following your conscience. May God go with you and keep you safe.

Happy Birthday.

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:25:00 PM  
Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

Oh my!...stunning post..Happy birthday to yaaaaaaaa!...I thought u were about 60..lol...this reference is great:"Go to any conservative blog, and 10 times out of 10, I wager, these blogs are deeply appreciative of what soldiers do on a routine basis.
We don't take their service and sacrifice lightly. I can't say the same thing about many of the lefty blogs I've visited."

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:36:00 PM  
Blogger Anna said...

Way to go Word. 11 Bravo or 11 Mike MOS? Get the 11 Mike, get to ride around in a Stryker or Bradley. But what do I know, used to have a Commo MOS. The two mile run can be fun. Better get in shape now.

I am reminded of what a British POW from the Japanese Railway of Death had to say once liberated. "One cannot conceive anything so valuable as freedom." - Sgt Harry Jones

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:25:00 PM  
Blogger Bushwack said...

Happy B-day to ya...

Good retort but a waste of time I'm afraid.

The real reason the left uses this argument, is in the hopes that we all join up, then there would be no one left HERE to defend the Troops from their attacks.....

See the liberal mind can't take a challenge it is unwilling to exude effort, it needs to be given everything without earning anything.

Liberalism is reality's great escape.

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anna said...

Word, I wish I had been here earlier to wish you a happy birthday ON your birthday!! (which my youngest daughter shares with you, though you have 24 years on her!)

I would hug you if I could, you know that! I cannot express what your post meant to me, but please e-mail and let me know where you'll be so I can write and send packages to you along with my other soldiers! Airforcewife and I will "smother" you together!

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

First off Happy Birthday Word!!!!

Second; So Cool Word, 39, that's the last year they'll accept you.Tell em you want to learn the .50 calibre "Ma Duece" or go for sniper training. That's adventure, take it from me. One of my close friends was an Army Ranger sniper, get up close and personal I always say.

I laugh at someone that would think to call me a chicken hawk. I was on the front lines of freedom during the cold war staring down the barrels of Soviet aggressors. I was also inolved with other things in the Middle East in the early 80's someday I'll explain.

Anyway, congratulations and you have to stay in touch with me wherever they send you. I'm a bit older than 39 but I'd go back in a minute if they would let me. I even offered to get rid of some of my shoes to make room for ammo and back up weaponry if they'd let me back in.

We used to laugh about some of the names they used for different jobs especially Naval intelligence, we weren't always sure there could be such a thing;-)

I really want to see the US kick some radical asses and win this and sending you is going to help. You know, I can understand Mom's not being too enthused about sending their children off to war. That's only natural. I guess if I were a Mom I'd be worried too but I suppose there wouldn't be too many Marines out there having their Mom sending them handloads for their sniper rifles either.

I guess my assignment is to neutralize the enemy here at home for now by making it difficult on war protestors and defeating democrats at the ballot box.

I got the collection effort going at my church sending quality toiletries and other special items to the troops. they also have a penpal thing going for the children that go to our Sunday school.The Pastor at my church was a concientious objector during Vietnam. We haven't seen eye to eye on this current conflict but I respect his principled position of not wanting to kill anyone. I just told him that there always have to be people willing to sacrifice their lives so others may live free.

Thank you Word and again Happy Birthday.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:07:00 AM  
Anonymous yankeemom said...

Happy (a little late) Birthday, Word!!
I'm older than youoooo!

I love the chickenhawk argument ~ makes soooo much sense - heh! The fireman etc. rebuttal is one I use too. Teh fact they single out the military just shows how they really feel.
Hey, I've some FRBs that I'll put aside just for you for when we can send goodies to you.

Hooah!

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:20:00 AM  
Blogger MDConservative said...

Happy Birthday.

Good points, it is funny you bring up the various dangerous jobs that are right around us! I used the argument of a firefighter the other day. The same people that complain of all people in support of the war not joining the military, are the same people that would be screaming for the fireman to put their house out. But they don't jump in and help out.

Because it is not their job, and they don't have the training. Do I run around telling people that refuse to help put out their house "chickenhawks", no because it is dumb. As are the arguments against those in support of the war.

Kerry screwed it up back a ways:
http://ci-report.blogspot.com/2006/04/best-judge-of-character.html

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:05:00 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

kate,

You're such a gas! And years wiser than I (^_^)

afw and anna of rose fame,

If I get called up, I'll be sure to allow for some smothering.

marty,

Thanks. I know you care. I was just being snippy, because I still disagree with you on the chickenhawk button-pushing.

angel.....60?! You thought I was some old geezer?!!! Sheesh! No wonder you treat me with such reverence! (^_~)

annapuna,

I hate running. Sorta. But I've started doing so. Any suggestions on special methods? Do they have you run with weighted gear? Because I do have a weight vest (up to 20lbs). Would that help me, in anyway? Anyone?

bushwack,

The chickenhawk charge is frustrating; because no matter how much your opinion might have merit, it is dismissed by those who find it easier to label you a chickenhawk, than tackle the substance of your points.

jennifer,

Sniping would be cool; but I'm blind as a bat without corrective lenses. Will that be a problem? So long as I have my correctives, watch out!

You sure are an intriguing person, j_g. Would love to hear more about your background and experiences, sometime.

debbie,

Thank you. Seeing as how your daughter is in the military, I figured you were probably older than me! And a lot more beautiful, I'm sure!

mdconservative,

The other part of the chickenhawk argument, is asking people if they'd be willing to sacrifice their children to go off to war. We don't send children. They are adults who made the adult decision to volunteer. We can't send our children anywhere. It's their decision.

And as I said in the post, there are many ways to serve, to support what you believe in. Not everyone is a warrior. But you can be part of a support system. Even within the military, it operates on a system of support roles.

It's not pc to say this, but in a lot of ways, it was industrialists who helped to win WWII. Some people served the war effort better by staying off the frontlines of combat. The army is all about working with a team. Each person has a job, and specific, delegated task to bring about success in a mission. It's not all about Rambo.

If anyone ever accused someone like Kat to be a chickenhawk in this war, I would find that absolutely laughable and ignorant.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:09:00 PM  
Blogger The Conservative UAW Guy said...

Happy birthday.
And I want to sincerely thank you for your service.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:56:00 PM  
Blogger Anna said...

Word, any special advice on running? Get some good running shoes first off. Build up to the two miles, do not push too hard. Now is not the time for shin splints or a blown knee. Never ran with weighted gear for any runs. But your mileage may vary.

As for sniping. If your vision is corrected to 20/20 I do not see a problem[pun intended :)]. Have you ever shot before? Better be a good shot with the M-16/M-4 before making noises to fire the M-24 or the Barret 82 .50cal as a sniper.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:44:00 PM  
Blogger mariestwocents said...

Well Happy B-Lated B-Day Word!!

I know you will do our Country Proud!!

You better find a way to keep in touch.

And you gotta post a Pic of you in Uniform :-)

I am so proud of you :-)

Godspeed my friend.

Semper Fi!

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49:00 PM  
Blogger mariestwocents said...

I know I will be supporting you also now when I hit D.C. March 17.

I am just so proud.

You know you have my full support
:-)

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:53:00 PM  
Blogger Marty said...

To be honest Wordsmith, I thought you were about 10 years younger. You're old enough to have a kid of your own in this fight. Sheesh.

I've posted my son's letters
from basic training. He took his basic at Ft. Knox, Kentucky which isn't for sissies. You can get an idea of what to expect by reading them.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:12:00 PM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Happy birthday to a Great American. Thanks for your service and your dedication to the cause of freedom! Great post and thoughts as usual but the emotion and heat felt patriotism shine in this one. Wherever you will be know that you have conservative friends who give you and all of our best and bravest our support and prayers!

Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:59:00 AM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

Belated Happy Birthday Wordsmith!

I know it wouldn't do any good to try and talk you out of enlisting for the selfish reason I would miss your blogging and all the support you give the little bloggers like me.

Surely they can find a better use for your skills than combat infantry?

P.S. Good luck getting back to that gymnast body from yesteryear. Lord knows I'd like to look model perfect again but age plays funny tricks.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:05:00 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

conservative uaw guy and liberal lie/conservative truth (you two have the longest usernames, ken...I suppose "wordsmith from nantucket" isn't much shorter),

Thanks for the thanks; but I haven't provided any service yet. This waiting period is making me nervous. For a while, I was hearing from my recruiter so often, it was becoming annoying. Now that there's nothing left to do, but wait for the waiver, I've not heard from her and it just feels weird.

I was fortunate to get a consult as quickly as I did. One recruit decided to tell the doctor he had a jammed finger, and he's been waiting for a couple of months, I think, just waiting for a consult. Over a jammed finger!

I got mixed messages between my recruiter warning me not to lie, but to know that the doctor will do everything to find a reason for me not to enlist. We went over what to say and what not to say. It really annoyed the hell out of me; and I had a bit of anger at my recruiter and at the doctor. In some ways, I know my recruiter does have my interests at heart; but she also has the interest of getting new recruits at heart as well, and might not be probing enough, as to the physical well-being of potential recruits.

Anyway, I feel a little bit like I'm in limbo at the moment. There's no reason why I should not get the waiver, though.

annapuna,

Thanks for the tips. It's not like I haven't ran before. I was just curious if there were any kind of special twists to it. Like running the two miles with 70 pounds of gear, or fireman carrying someone on my back a ways.

Have you ever shot before?

I have, and was told I'm a naturally good shot. But my experience is still limited. At one of the places I used to train at (in eclectic fighting arts), I had a training partner who was a former green beret during Vietnam. He is a Huntington Beach police officer, and sniper for their SWAT. Also a firearms instructor at Gunsite in Arizona. I regret now, not taking advantage of times he invited me to go combat shooting. He trained me in firearms safety and shooting with small arms. At the time, I was looking to purchase, and he allowed me to experiment by shooting different handguns in his collection.

marie,

That is great that you will be in D.C. I wish I could be there with you. Hope to read your blogposts on it. And take lots of pictures!

Also, thanks for the e-mail. You wrote a lot, so it'll take me time to digest it all. Thank you!

marty,

Thanks for the link. I greatly appreciate that. If anyone wants to follow someone going through basic training right now, read "White Rose's Adventures". She is a contributor at A Soldier's Perspective, and just left for basic. I'm on her mailing list.

mike,

Age tells me that no matter if the army whips me into better shape than I have ever been in my life, I will never again have the Olympic-caliber build of my youthful prime.

Surely they can find a better use for your skills than combat infantry?

I really have an interest in combat infantry; but wisdom tells me to go with whatever I am good at, to benefit the army the most. I think more than half the time, you are good at what you are interested in (American Idol contestants, being the excpetion), and interested in what you are good at.

Like I said, military intelligence is something I might be able to come back to.

Right now, it's a strange time for me. My bosses are not fond of this war at all, and it was difficult bringing up my decision to enlist. I don't know exactly how this will work out, fulfilling my Guard duties, and my obligations to my civilian jobs. It might just be easier, going regular army.

My recruiter told me she felt I should do National Guard first, as an entry into the military. That's smart, I suppose, as I know it will be a culture shock. But I also realize that she is a recruiter for the Guard and Army Reserve; so, it was also in her own interests to talk me into enlistment with the NG.

I work with a lot of children, and I think the hardest thing will be to "leave them". I've seen some of these kids grow up from day one. So I can only imagine how hard it is for all the soldiers out there to be parted from their children and wives.

I haven't told my gymnastics kids about this. I don't want them to make it overly dramatic, as it is after all, "only" the national guard; and after basic training, I should more or less still be around. But I know, without trying to sound egotistical, that many of them will be devastated; especially if I get called up and deploy. (my contract is for 6 years, and with the state of affairs on the world stage, I think the likelihood of going active is strong). If there is an opportunity to volunteer to go overseas, I would gladly jump all over that.

I know I will get an earful from the older kids who come from very typical California blue-state families.

In large part, it is for these kids who I love so much, that I do this. It's not because I'm dissatisfied with my civilian life; I love my civilian job and civilian life very, very much.

I see the precious lives of these children, and want to be in a position to protect them and their way of life.

Providing military service to a country that has given us so much, and which I think has done so much for the world, is my way of giving back to it.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

I would miss your blogging and all the support you give the little bloggers like me.

Well, I won't be full-time army. Who knows? Maybe I'll start a milblog, down the line.

I just know that in general, I should probably slow down on the blogging, anyway.

Perhaps, do the quick posts, linking to others, rather than do long soliloqueys on much-about-nothing.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger Gayle said...

Happy belated birthday, Wordsmith. I was very surprised to find you to be as young as you are. Also, going by that impressive picture of you, I doubt you'll have any trouble taking off an extra 35 pounds.

I think, if things keep on going the way they've been going, the military will change that age-limit somewhat. Not everyone over 40 is an old codger. Not any more. To limit people's ability to join because they have passed 39 is not logical anymore.

At any rate, congratulations on your decision and may God always bless you and keep you safe. I know... you're an agnostic, but I'm not. :)

Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Curt said...

Oh, and I just have to say this....

Think Marines man....

=)

Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:50:00 PM  
Blogger Curt said...

Hmmm, seems my second comment showed up first....but anyways

Word, another happy birthday from a blogging buddy.

We've talked about you joining the Guard before so this news doesn't come as a surprise but I just want to reiterate my support of your efforts to serve our country. I was 18 when I joined the Corps and 22 when I went into the Police Dept, I couldn't imagine doing it at 39 (which is the age I'm at now). I have the deepest respect for your decision to do it and in no way should anyone try to talk you out of it.

Is it dangerous, yes. But we all know how fragile life is, you could kick the bucket going to the grocery story tomorrow. But what drove me when I was younger, and still drives me today, is knowing deep in my heart that when I meet my maker I can say that I did my part. I didn't stay on the sidelines whining about this and that, I actively took on the responsibility of protecting this country....and they can never take that away from me.

And they will never be able to take that away from you.

As far as your fitness goes, judging by that picture of you and your training it should not be a problem. Just hard work.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:51:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

gayle wrote:

I was very surprised to find you to be as young as you are.

I guess no one got my age right...angel thought I was in my 60's, marty thought I was 10 years younger....


Also, going by that impressive picture of you, I doubt you'll have any trouble taking off an extra 35 pounds.

15 years makes a big difference. My last 6 years have been largely filled with physical inactivity. Not totally true, but besides the blogging and reading, my other hobby is my side business, which is origami paperfolding. That steered my time away from exercise.

Now, I realize how great it was to be a gymnast, strong and light as a feather.

I think, if things keep on going the way they've been going, the military will change that age-limit somewhat.

Well, they already have.

But I do agree with you, that people are living longer and retaining their quality of health. I understand that the retirement age for airline pilots have upped.

Even so, I think there should always be exceptions to the rule, with the rule being a general guideline. Some 50 year olds are in better shape than 20 year olds. I think you either pass the physical requirements or you don't , regardless of your adult age.

Thanks for the God bless. You know I am the best non-Christian Christian out there (I think Mark gave me that compliment after one of my anti-ACLU threads).

Thanks for dropping by Curt. I did have thoughts of joining the Marines a while back; I think at the time, the cut off was something like 37. It might be up to 40, now. I think being a Marine must be a proud feeling for anyone.

A big part of me wishes I had pursued military service when I was younger; but truth to tell, I wasn't ready. It took 9/11 to mature me, politically and give me deeper social conscience and awareness. And sad to say, it took 9/11 to also make me appreciate my dad's military service. Before that, I only had a vague appreciation.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:13:00 PM  
Blogger Mary said...

Happy (belated) Birthday, WS!

Great post on that favorite lib deflection -- playing the Chickenhawk card.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:20:00 PM  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Dang, Word. First - Happy Birthday!!

Second - you were one buff young man!! Little bit of workout and you'll be top notch again. I hear you on the pains, though.

Third - I wish I could go with you. I have a very important job right now of bringing up my girls. Once that's done - say 13 years - well. Then I'll be REALLY old and decrepid. lol. I could still fire some kind of big gun, though. I really liked that LAW rocket, that was tons o' fun. Small guns will do, too. ;-)

We are behind you 150%!

Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:44:00 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

"I just know that in general, I should probably slow down on the blogging, anyway."

AH HA!

Here I was just thinking we had you trained on a regular blog routine and now you're backsliding!

Not acceptable!

Time off for training and guard duties, but we expect quality postings to continue at all other times!

That's an order!

:)

Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:22:00 PM  
Blogger Marty said...

If you get deployed to Iraq while in the National Guard please be aware that the military provides the active duty with the best equipment and protection. My son felt so sorry for the NGs that he worked with. They get the short end of the stick. Just a word to the wise.

And Mike...the statement you made: "Surely they can find a better use for your skills than combat infantry?" ...is a slap in the face of those brave soldiers you say you support. This liberal mom of a soldier is not going to let you get away with insulting combat troops in that manner Mike. That offensive statement was very revealing indeed. Shame on you.

Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Seth said...

Happy Belated, Wordsmith...

And thank you in advance for your service to our country and citizens.

Be assured that should you go to war, all our prayers and thanks will follow you.

But for G-d's sake, man, don't ever stop blogging! Your idea about a possible Milblog down the road is an excellent one.

BTW, I had you pegged for right around my age (51). :-)

Friday, March 02, 2007 12:48:00 AM  
Blogger BB-Idaho said...

Once you wear OD, you will never be called chickenhawk again. Wear it with honor, but remember, if you should ever think the country's military was rushed into
the wrong place for the wrong reasons, your military career is no protection from being labled a
traitor or coward. Such are the meaningless words thrown around by
both current viewpoints.

Friday, March 02, 2007 4:17:00 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

"is a slap in the face of those brave soldiers you say you support."

No it's not Smarty. And if you want to twist my words I'll slap you instead.

Wordsmith has many fine qualities, which could be better suited to intell or public affairs.

Unless of course you are saying that those postings aren't of any value.

Don't give me any of your shit woman. You can brag about your son, but what have YOU done for your country? Sorry, but being a complaining bitch doesn't count.

Friday, March 02, 2007 7:27:00 PM  
Blogger Marty said...

"And if you want to twist my words I'll slap you instead."

That statement says a lot about you Mike.

Wordsmith, I'll be sure to check back from time to time to see how you're doing. Take care.

Friday, March 02, 2007 9:20:00 PM  
Blogger MonicaR said...

My buddy is in the NG - he just returned from Iraq last year. He and his unit were well equipped. They had everything they needed and more - plenty of armor. Everything.

Friday, March 02, 2007 11:23:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Ok...I don't have the energy or desire to get into this...and it seems like it's over now. But, Marty,

I can see how Mike's remark came across to you; but I didn't read it that way, and think there was no slight against combat soldiers given. I think mike just doesn't seem me in that capacity, and thinks I have talent in other fields that are important.

And Mike,

Please chill. I know you were strongly offended, but I don't think tearing into marty with such harsh language reflects well on you. That's just my personal opinion. She and I disagree strongly on the war and the politics of the war; but I will afford her the respect due her, as a blue star mom, and as someone who has conducted herself with civility on my blog.

It pains me to say it, since you are one of my closest friends in the blogosphere, and on party issues, whether it be the Dubai ports deal or Harriet Miers, when the conservative base was breaking lances with itself, you and I stood in alignment. I think sometimes, you just let your temper get the better of you.

I will otherwise, always back you, my friend. I just don't think marty deserved that, anymore than you deserved to be slighted.

monica, idaho, seth, mary,

Thanks for commenting and lending support and advice. Greatly appreciated.

marty,

Thanks for stopping in, even when you know you are stepping into a potentially volatile and hostile environment.

Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:31:00 PM  
Blogger ex-Hollywood Liberal said...

As a former Marine Corps sergeant who served almost all of his four years overseas AND as a Blue Star Dad AND as a retired LA cop, it's easy to ID charlatans who argue, "Well, why don't you join the military?"

The fact is that our present conflict has many fronts, including fronts located here in the US.

Liberals like to drape the flags around them and pretend to be patriotic, but they are also the enemy.

I noticed your Orwell quote, he also explained why so-called Pacifists are actually fascists - a fascinating argument made back in 1942/1943. Google Orwell/pacifist/fascist and you'll find many references, including my own.

We can recognize our domestic fascist traitors for what they are and not worry about their intellectually-dishonest traps. Any real American will know the war we are fighting is real and the war they are fighting is AGAINST America.

But this is nothing new. During our Revolutionary War, only 1/4 to 1/3 of the colonists supported independence, while another 1/3 fought against our patriots and the other third or so didn't care. As a result, we remember our patriots, while our domestic enemies (except for a few) will never be remembered.

John Adams, the Father of our Navy, never wore a uniform. If not for his efforts, America would be another Canada or Ireland... and we would all be speaking German or Japanese today.

Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:06:00 PM  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Clark's right, honey. You listen to him.

Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:09:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Whoa....I'm in awe of Clark's post.

And checking his profile, I'm flattered that he saw fit to leave a comment. I've actually caught his program a couple of times; but I have trouble on Sundays to remember to tune in to his show or Lores Rizkalla's.

Monday, March 05, 2007 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Skye said...

Those that claim to 'support the troops' that I find have an odd kind of support that consists of comparing them to soviet thugs, and accusing them of torture. *cough*Hanoi John*cough*

What kind of support calls for the troops to abandon their mission before it's completed, and run away from an enemy WHO CHOSE THIS FIGHT????

How can you say to someone, "I love and support you, but despise everything you stand for and everything you do?

That's not love and support; that is utter abuse.


BTW: I am so proud to call you a friend!

Monday, March 05, 2007 5:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Skye said...

Whoops!!

Happy belated B-Day!!!!

Monday, March 05, 2007 5:20:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

skye,

I was wondering when you'd show up to the party. Saved some Philly cheesecake for you, even....Better late than never.

Monday, March 05, 2007 10:53:00 PM  
Blogger Cajun Tiger said...

Good on ya for following your heart and signing up. I'm doing the same this summer, however on a slightly different route. As of now I'm planning on joining the Reserves as a Chaplain. I'll have 3 years of seminary and then at least 4 years of Reserve duty.

My time in Iraq last year as a contractor solidified every instinct I had to support our troops and this war. Glad to have you on the frontlines in the fight here and once you are signed up!

Friday, March 16, 2007 2:17:00 PM  

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