Wednesday, May 28, 2008

Paulville, U.S.A. ("Oh, but don't dare call them 'Isolationist'!")

Tina Fineberg, AP

This is no joke, folks (well...so-to-speak):
The goal of Paulville.org it to establish gated communities containing 100% Ron Paul supporters and or people that live by the ideals of freedom and liberty.
They just recently purchased 50 acres of land in west Texas for the first of what they hope are many such "gated communities". Doesn't that just totally reek of awesomeness? Maybe if they get enough "gated communities" going, they can buy up their own country and call it "Paulistine". Whatever happened to those millions of voters, anyway?

Can I call the Paul Bearers a cult, yet for this Jonestown-style venture? Or are the Paulbot cyber-Paulice patrol still prowling Technorati for conservative blogs that dare speak ill and disrespectfully of their Chosen One? I guess this post will be a test to see if the Ronulans still pour out of the woodworks to blather about what the Founding Fathers wanted, blowback, 9/11 was an inside job, how the Ron Paul Revolution will win the Presidency, etc.

One community supporter wants to honor their Constitutional Messiah by erecting a statue:
What would everyone think if we made sure that in the public square there was a majestic statue of Mr. Ron Paul holding a copy of the constitution?
Not all Ron Paul supporters are cult-like Paul Reverists:
I realize you all are talking this movement forward with the best of intentions, but by attaching it to Ron Paul you are hurting his cause. Already he and his supporters are labeled "kooks," and now there's a (nicely done) Web site...nay, entire GATED NEIGHBORHOODS, that support the notion.

Isn't Paul already accused of being an isolationist? Well, we know he's not, but it seems some of his supporters are.

Cutting yourself off from the nation isn't the solution.
Ah....gotta love dissent within the ranks of the Paul Bearers. Ron Paul himself isn't about to isolate himself from sane civilization:

“I don’t think that’s the solution,” said the still-running Republican presidential candidate. “You want to spread out and be as pervasive as possible.”
No please....don't spread out....what happened to isolationism non-interventionism?
But dropping out and creating an isolated community isn’t the answer, says Paul, a congressman from Texas. “You don’t want the ideas to be centered in one place,” he says. “But it shows how desperate people are for freedom.”
Hmm...America's a community....should her ideals be "centered in one place"? Are there many people outside of our "non-gated community (country)" "desperate" for freedom? Yet we should "mind our own business", right?

As they have on the website,

"I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business."

- Ron Paul

I can live with that: them minding their own business.

In other PaulWatch news, the Washington Post, yesterday, reported where some of those donations to the ArPee campaign went:
Ron Paul's Campaign Is a Family Business, FEC Reports Show

By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 27, 2008; A03

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) has built a national following largely by preaching an isolationist foreign policy. Stick with your own kind, says the maverick presidential candidate.

And that's more or less what he has been doing over the past few months, putting relatives in a slew of key positions and paying them a total of $169,063, according to the latest campaign finance reports.

Paul's granddaughter Valori Pyeatt helps organize fundraising receptions and has been paid $17,157. Another granddaughter, Laura Paul ($2,724), handles orders for Ron Paul merchandise. Grandson Matthew Pyeatt ($3,251) manages Paul's MySpace profile. Daughter Peggy Paul ($2,224) helps with campaign logistics. The candidate's sons Randall and Robert and his daughter Joy Paul LeBlanc have all been paid for campaign travel and for appearing as surrogates at political events.

Who keeps track of all these finances? Paul's brother and daughter, naturally, who have been paid a combined $62,740 to handle the campaign's accounting.

Campaign aides said they discussed the possibility that involving so many family members could create the impression that nepotism was driving hiring decisions, but ultimately they saw no problem with the practice.

"You always think about those kinds of things," said Jesse Benton, Paul's spokesman and, it just so happens, the fiance of one of the candidate's granddaughters (he has been paid $54,573). "But his family is very important to him. There is something important about having a family element involved in a campaign. Having people around you that you can unconditionally trust."

Paul has received relatively few votes in his insurgent bid for the Republican nomination, but he has attracted an extraordinarily dedicated following that has flooded his campaign coffers with more than $30 million in donations. Even after releasing a video on his Web site in March indicating that he no longer expected to win the Republican nomination, Paul has continued to collect and spend those riches.
Congressman Paul's new book, "The Revolution: A Manifesto," currently ranks number 7 on the NYTimes bestseller list. (I'm sure Scott McClellan's book will push past that- when's the 60 Minute tell-all interview, Scott?)


Maybe when their Dali Bama loses the 2008 Election, Senator Obama's diehard supporters can buy up acres of earth, and live in their own little Obamanation, where they can chant, "Obama...Obama"to their hearts' content. They can live next door to Paulistine, too. Just try not to disturb the Paultards. They're trying to isolate be non-intervened.


Cross-posted at Flopping Aces


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13 Comments:

Blogger Gayle said...

Maybe if they get enough "gated communities" going, they can buy up their own country and call it "Paulistine". LOL! Great idea, Wordsmith! But you're asking for it with this post. They're still lurking.

I've been told by Paulites that Ron Paul isn't an isolationist. Let's see, he wants us to mind our own business, bring all of our troops home and roll up the carpet, but they insist he isn't an isolationist. Maybe they don't know what isolation means? They aren't isolationists either, I suppose, even though they want to isolate themselves from the rest of America. Boy, these people left the land of logic and reason far, far behind! Well, let them have their gated communities. All the nutjobs being located in one place is fine with me. :)

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:44:00 AM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

The Pauliacs just won't quit. They backed a loser and even when he proves he is a loser they still beleive they are winning or can win. SHEESH!

If he had been around in 1940 he would have told Chuchill to get lost ! In 1941 his response would have been to the Japs, "well it was only a few ships and a couple of thousand men. That's not worth fighting for. So go ahead Tojo the Pacific is yours because after all it only touches our Western border!

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without bothering to point out the specific logical errors you and your commentators have made, I'll just quickly address your rather gross swipe at Paulville, and the exceedingly good and honest people who are involved in it.

*disclaimer* - I did not buy a plot in Paulville, but know personally just about everyone who did. I speak for myself personally, and this post cannot be construed to represent anything "official" about a project I am not an officer in.

Point #1: the premise is certainly to build a community of like-minded people, and honestly: my experiences of the past few months show clearly that I'd rather be surrounded by intelligent and thoughtful people with a healthy respect for personal liberty, than say the average Clinton, Obama or McCain supporter. IMO, anyone dumb enough to embrace "change" without knowing what specific changes are in store deserves what they get - more fascism.

Despite the abuse dumped on us simply for having the courage to refute some of the BS that passes for reality in America ("they hate us for our freedoms"), most RP supporters are simply beyond the hysterics of our supposed "peers". We're the people who knew there were no WMDs in Iraq back in '02. We were right, you didn't listen then and you insult us now to cover your own guilt. We're the ones who warned you of double digit inflation, which we have now if you don't use the funny math that DC foists on you. We were right again, and to no surprise y'all seem inable to give credit where it's due. Your commentators mention isolationism, apparently without irony. Yet Dr. Paul cites our own intelligence agencies when he discusses "blowback" as the cause of 9/11. So which is it? Can we take at face value the *stated motives* of the perps, or do we contort our logic to some Giuliani-esque paranoia that we are hated for "Sex in the City"? Critics love erecting strawmen such as Hitler (who was funded by Prescott Bush, natch) to claim that minding our own business will lead to totalitarianism - a claim that has zero historical basis, but plays fairly well to FOXNEWS's largely illiterate (and dwindling) viewers. Same goes for the pacific theater of WWII - any competent historian can find the evidence that proves we disabled the radars at Pearl Harbor, as well as a laundry list of other rather traitorous actions conducted by that administration. These established facts are glossed over for a 5sec soundbyte version of reality where we'd all be wearing Hello Kitty handcuffs today if it weren't for our great military-industrial complex propagandizing us via Disney. Yeah, we're waaaay out there... reading a couple books on history tends to get in the way of believing the hype. Or, when the world refers to "dumb Americans", you can rest assured the RP's supporters are the exception, as we are the only Americans who have a clue on middle east history, for one.

Proof, as such, will probably not sway any true believers of the propagandized history. That is not really something I can do much about. Which segues...

Point #2: Paulville is also an experiment in "sustainable living". Unlike those who think money grows on printing presses (it doesn't), most RP supporters understand economic fundamentals (such as Keynesianism is bollocks), and as such know they cannot just keep consuming something from nothing. The goal, then, is to move towards a production economy, instead of our current consumption or debt based economy. Paulville aims to be calorie and energy positive - to produce more food and energy than it consumes. Both the far left and the far right should applaud, if they actually mean what they say. Paulville is an attempt at both fiscal and environmental conservation. Jeez, those crazy Paultards - actually thinking that they can balance a checkbook!

Point #3: (to close the segue) Paulville intends to show that we don't need or want you or your illusions. It's not my job to convince you of anything, I simply want you to keep your ill-reasoned laws away from me. If I can produce my own energy and food, if I can defend my own land - what the hell do I need you for? If I want a terrible saxophone player for my band I'll call Bill Clinton, but other than that he's useless. Get over it folks - they put on their little uniforms and prance around, and you dumb-ass monkeys eat it up like prancing around actually solves problems.

So, we don't need you. We don't like being around people who choose not to think. We don't want to be forced to use Monsanto seeds to grow food.

And at the end of the day, that's the whole of it, ain't it? Force. You, and your ilk, believe it is perfectly OK to go killing people who disagree with your insane beliefs, or who sit on oil you covet to perpetuate your illusions of america's love affair with the car. Completely lost is the fact that cars were getting 60mpg back in the 80s. Where did that fuel efficiency go? Did we lose the technology?

No. Some of us (you) simply lost your minds and started believing whatever crap the TV put on your plate.

Is it really that surprising that RP supporters would take their (huge iron) balls and go home?

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:45:00 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

anon,

You just made my day! For a while there, I was starting to worry that I was being ignored by the Paul Bearers; or that they stopped Paulicing the internet for conservative bloggers, such as myself, who poke fun at ArPee and his Ronulan cult.

Thanks for commenting!

Not all of my anti-Paul posts are meant to merely get a reaction out of y'all.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:02:00 AM  
Blogger Ron Simpson said...

chortle...Obamanation.......I had a wierd thought when I read that. Obamanation sung to Janet Jackson's song, Rhythm Nation.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:39:00 PM  
Blogger Ron Simpson said...

in an adendum....
I have nothing against Ron Paul or his ideas, really. It takes all types. I would rather have him than Obama or Hillary. He has said some things I agree with. My problem is the maniacal way his supporters have abused the system, how they have littered the internet with thousands upon thousands of blog comments--raving on and on and on about Paul. Ron Paul did not kill his campaign......his supporters did.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:45:00 PM  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Some of Ron Paul's ideas make sense; it's the baggage which COMES with some of those ideas, and the PERSONS that come attached as well, that make me quiver with dread.

BZ

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:01:00 PM  
Blogger airforcewife said...

You know what's funny to me in this? The Paulian gated community is supposed to shut a bunch of liberty minded folks together...

As a part of a Homeowners Association...

Honestly, have you EVER met a group of people more fascist than your local homeowners association? Seriously? Because I haven't.

Liberty and Homeowners Association are two mutually exclusive terms. In fact, I would venture to say that it is only a matter of time until homeowners associations start instituting the death penalty for people who don't cut their lawn often enough.

I can't WAIT to see what rules the Paulians institute.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You just made my day!

You admit that it was rather easy, considering how hard I've had to work to accomplish real change in the larger blogosphere. ;P

I was being ignored by the Paul Bearers

You probably were - I just have such extreme search reach that I can find these unknown and unread blogs to insert comments here and there. Call me tech savvy, unlike most non-ron supporters.

cult

Insomuch as Galileo was a cultist, you are right.

Thanks for commenting!

As a proper Randian, it was not your profit I sought, but you're welcome to whatever joy you can glean from your tragedies. I suppose you dismiss the reality that gas mileage in the 80's was twice as good as it is now.

That's quite convenient to your sarcastic, if undereducated, tone. Thanks for the opportunity to comment, to exactly the same degree.

My problem is the maniacal way his supporters have abused the system,

Oh, that's rich. It's perfectly OK for the Nevada GOP to break every rule in it's charter, but it is "abuse" for us to use the rules as they exist in the books to try what any supporter should do - to secure delegates for the convention. Add to this that McCain is a complete neo-con, i.e.: a socialist. Yeah, it's the fiscal conservatives who are "abusing" the GOP. LOL.

Nice try. It's really no wonder that RP supporters are not too keen on listening to the "complaints" of the "GOP faithful" - when same are RINOs - Republicans In Name Only.

Listen - I'm beyond liberal. Want to marry your gay boyfriend? Go ahead. Want to cut government spending? I'll wipe out all those ridiculous agencies. Want a free market? I'll get rid of all taxes and subsidies - ergo: a REAL free market. You want either left or right, sans communisms? Call the libertarians - the only true patriots. And, in fact, I'm an anarchist - I think Jefferson was too mild, as well as a hypocritical slave owner. Call Chomsky and ask him to make the same claim.

They backed a loser and even when he proves he is a lose

Um, you may not have noticed, but we keep getting higher percentages. We are losing to the exact degree that our numbers grow.

Are they growing?

that make me quiver with dread.

So live in fear, ya pussy. I haven't felt the emotion "fear" in better than a decade. No lie.

I can't WAIT to see what rules the Paulians institute.

And THIS is the whole point. Did commenter TALK to the people involved? No?

I have. We had long conversations about exactly this.

It is supposed that hardcore libertarians will forget their mandate(s) when confronted with the brown grass of their neighbor's lawn. This is false. This is, in fact, a projection of the various things YOU would do if your panties got in a bunch.

Again, I am privvy to some of these conversations, and these complaints were laughably dismissed by credible people who *just don't give a s#!t about their neighbor's lawn, or their property values as defined by mortgages they don't owe. Your failure is in expecting healthy and rational people to act like the average maniacs in your home town. Paulville has no psycho PTA women. It has no insane soccer-dads. What you consider normal is highly unusual. Christ - I bet half of you believe in global warming. Why? Not because you have any background in climatology - but rather because you indulge in Fallacy of Appeal to Authority - you are ENTIRELY willing to give up science for popularity.

Again: is it any surprise that we - coders, scientists, logicians - respectfully disagree?

Yes - and that's the joke. Our respectful desire to let you make your own mistakes it THE height of our obscenity, by your standards. What *cannot* happen is for us to not suffer your mistakes.

Ask yourself: if Paulville succeeds - what does it cost YOU?

Nothing, except the death of your false conception that "no man is an island". In fact, each man is an island - a sum total of individual choice.

THAT is what the anti-paul folks (and that's what you are) want - you want US to play YOUR game, at OUR expense, to YOUR benefit, and w/o any debate on either side.

I ask again - what does paulville cost you? Nothing?

Well shouldn't you STFU, then?

You won't - but you *really* should.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:50:00 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

Unknown? Unread?

Sorry Paulbot, but your "search reach" is whacked.

What you stumbled on here is quality and it's a quality network that links this blog to so many other small, medium and larger sized like minded enterprises across the blogworld.

You Paulbot suffer from such narcissitic isolationism that you fail to realize your pathetically small numbers are meaningless in the larger scheme.

P.S. And I totally agree with Air Force Wife:

"Honestly, have you EVER met a group of people more fascist than your local homeowners association? Seriously? Because I haven't.
"


We just had an election issue in my own little gated fascist state which is run by a golfing gestapo. I've seen some mean and dirty elections but these people could write the book.

They are so whacked, they almost make Paulbots seem normal.

Almost.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:22:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

*clap, clap*

Thanks, again for the visit and taking the time out in your busy schedule to leave such a longwinded response! My unread blog appreciates it!

Glad you saw fit to insult, where insults were called for. Tells me I pushed the right buttons.

I'm done debating with Paul Reverists, now that they are largely irrelevant in this Election. You can read my comments and posts here. Some are unserious, like this one; others, I do take the time out for some respectful debate.


I ask again - what does paulville cost you? Nothing?

Well shouldn't you STFU, then?

You won't - but you *really* should.


lol. Does it upset you that a nothing blogger like me has the freedom to point and laugh at your fellow Ronulans? Do you lose sleep over it? Do you feel a special calling, paulicing the internet for those who ridicule your Constitutional Messiah? Are you making a difference?

Well good for you, then. More power to you! Keep up the good fight!

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:41:00 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I think I'll take a moment out of my busy life to utter some of my wisdom on Paulieism.

#1 at least we will know were all these nutcases are. There's nothing worse that a Paulbot getting lose and not knowing what he's doing. Case in point, Oklahoma City with Paulbot Timothy McVeigh. He was on the exteme edge of Paulieism but a Paulbot nonetheless

#2 as Airforce wife has pointed out about living in gated community with other Paulbots. A Paulowners association is more like fascism than even Bush facist nazism. Would you have to pay a fine if your house didn't have enough Paulbot for President signs?

This whole thing is just too funny or sad, I can't decide which. Even I, THE arch conservative of Pennsylvania live in a integrated community. Out of approximately 400K people in my district there are at least 5 democrats and maybe one or two Paulbots.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:48:00 PM  
Blogger SkyePuppy said...

I love how the Paulbot has to clear up our misconceptions about him and his kind (disclaimer: I was a registered Libertarian for several years before I left the isolationist, pro-abortion party of the computer programmers). Then, he (she? No, probably a he) proceeds to make all kinds of wild assumptions about us:

"You, and your ilk, believe it is perfectly OK to go killing people who disagree with your insane beliefs, or who sit on oil you covet to perpetuate your illusions of america's love affair with the car."

Nice logic, buddy!

Really, the crucial point is not their banding together in perfect constitutional liberty. It's their choice of location: West Texas??? Let 'em have it!

Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:07:00 AM  

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