Thursday, July 19, 2007

Iraq: A Bleeding Ground for Terrorists.



From Hugh Hewitt's interview with General Petraeus, yesterday:
Iraq is not a breeding ground for terrorists, but a burying ground. General Petraeus, from my interview with him this morning:
[A]s you know, we try to avoid body counting, but inevitably, obviously, it is something we keep track of, because we're trying to have some sense of the damage we are doing to al Qaeda-Iraq, its affiliates, other Sunni insurgent groups, and also certainly to the Shia militia extremist elements. And the answer to that in a general sense is that they are losing many, many hundreds of their, of these different elements each month, certainly since the onset of the surge.
Even though the MSM likes to highlight every U.S. soldier that dies in Iraq (not to honor the fallen, but to will the American public into defeat), underscore the negative setbacks, and selectively reports on the bad news, we are not "losing"; unless it's in our own fevered minds. Perception and perspective is everything.



In wars, people die. Good people. Our people.

We are in a war with Al Qaeda. And Islamic hirabahists.

In Iraq.

And around the world, yes; but Iraq is the central front in a broader war, where we occupy center-stage with the enemies of civilization. Will America fold like a paper tiger? Or will America have the intestinal fortitude it takes to sustain losses in order to win wars? The world is watching.

Al Qaeda's monsters are being killed in droves. No, I'm not going to refer to them as "someone's father/brother/son". They are human rot, and enemies of civilization. Killers of children:
At first, he said, they would only target Shia, but over time the new al Qaeda directed attacks against Sunni, and then anyone who thought differently. The official reported that on a couple of occasions in Baqubah, al Qaeda invited to lunch families they wanted to convert to their way of thinking. In each instance, the family had a boy, he said, who was about 11 years old. As LT David Wallach interpreted the man’s words, I saw Wallach go blank and silent. He stopped interpreting for a moment. I asked Wallach, “What did he say?” Wallach said that at these luncheons, the families were sat down to eat. And then their boy was brought in with his mouth stuffed. The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family.
Iraqis love their children.
Over here, the fact of al Qaeda murdering children is just that: it’s a fact. How they chose to commit the murders is a variable that changes from incident to incident. I’ve written often about how Iraqis, as a rule, love and greatly value their children. This makes the children especially vulnerable as targets for terrorists. That is a brutal fact.Al Qaeda drinks and uses drugs here. This is not propaganda. This is not even news, it’s a fact that I wrote about back in 2005.
Religious extremism- that has no equal in any other major modern religions- has made human beings into human aberrations. Even Iraqis once allied to them are seeing who the real killers of Muslims and Iraqis are. And it's not us.
Al Qaeda’s ultimate failure in much of Anbar and now in parts of Diyala relates back to one of the pillars of success—or failure—in this war: Values. People who understand how to tamp down this war realize the critical pillar that values can play into success or failure in counterinsurgency, or COIN.
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Abu Ali said that on 1 April 2007, he and his people attacked al Qaeda in Buhriz for their crimes against Islam. He also said something that many Muslims have said to me: al Qaeda are not Muslims. (Both Sunni and Shia have said nearly the exact same words, at times on video.) Abu Ali said they fought hard against al Qaeda, and on 10 April, they asked the Americans to join the attack. It worked.
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Before the tape was running, I asked Abu Ali why he and the 1920s turned against al Qaeda in Buhriz. Speaking through LT David Wallach, a native Arabic speaker, Abu Ali said that “al Qaeda is an abomination of Islam: cutting off heads, stealing people’s money, kidnapping . . . every type of torture they have done.”

The recent stories of baked children came to mind. I asked if Abu Ali had heard about children being baked. Ali said no, he had not heard such a story, but he would not be surprised if it were true because al Qaeda had done so many crimes, such as cutting off a man’s head, putting it up on a stick and parading it around town.
In the aftermath of major combat in Operation Arrowhead Ripper,
The big news on the streets today is that the people of Baqubah are generally ecstatic, although many hold in reserve a serious concern that we will abandon them again [*cough*Harry Reid whiteflag RepublicansDemocrat surrendermonkeys *cough*- ws]. For many Iraqis, we have morphed from being invaders to occupiers to members of a tribe. I call it the “al Ameriki tribe,” or “tribe America.”


Does any American deny that we are fighting evil in Iraq? Is this the fight that we want to "cut and run" from, with our tail hanging between our legs?

We need to "stay the course" in Iraq not only for America's security- the only reason America's military should ever be used- but because it's the right, and noble thing to do. The only course to take. All options should remain on the table, save that which advocates for defeat and retreat.



Al Qaeda is losing in Iraq. Unless we let them win. If the battle for Iraq is lost, it will be lost back here in the States. Not on the battlefield of Iraq. Our brave military is doing its part with distinction and honor on the battlefront. Are we doing our part, back here at home?


Presidents don't win or lose wars. Neither does the military. Nations win or lose wars. So, it begs the question: Do we win....or lose?

Cross-posted at Flopping Aces

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17 Comments:

Blogger Lexcen said...

I think the sad truth is that
Islamism isn't confined to Iraq and is more widespread than just Al Qaeda.

Friday, July 20, 2007 2:04:00 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Yup.

Friday, July 20, 2007 6:10:00 AM  
Blogger Donald Douglas said...

"Does any American deny that we are fighting evil in Iraq? Is this the fight that we want to "cut and run" from, with our tail hanging between our legs?"

No, we can't cut and run - we're in this. Keep on surgin'.

Thanks Worsmith for an outstanding post! I'm never leave without some additional readings!

Have a great day!

Friday, July 20, 2007 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Great Post Word,

You Nailed It.

Friday, July 20, 2007 2:01:00 PM  
Blogger Gayle said...

Wordsmith always nails it!

I think the Dems want us to lose this. They would rather we retreat in defeat than have to admit that Bush was right. They just wouldn't be able to stand that! And now they've gone and scrapped the John Doe Protection Amendment. It's almost too much to bear!

Friday, July 20, 2007 3:20:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Just check out some reactions to Hugh Hewitt's interview with General Petraeus, from the lefty blogs.

Also, something General Petraeus said:

In an interview with columnist Ralph Peters, General Petraeus said, "If I could only have one [thing] at this point in Iraq, it would be more time." There are no shortcuts, he said. "It's a test of wills, demanding patience, determination and stamina from all involved."


America is impatient and the enemies are awaiting for a September bloodbath. I think we should be listening to our generals in the field.

Friday, July 20, 2007 10:20:00 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

It's going to be difficult enough to make it to September. Not sure what is going to happen if he asks for more time when he reports.

P.S. So you've never been to Nantucket Word? I am confused.

Friday, July 20, 2007 10:49:00 PM  
Blogger TrekMedic251 said...

Ahhh,..the "Cots & Jammies" Kids and their 14% (approval rate) Solution!

Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:39:00 AM  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Islamists are in FACT the antithesis of Civilization. The sooner than Islam can be exterminated from this planet the better it will be.

People say that Islamists have hijacked the religion; I say that Islam IS what Islam DOES. With that unit of measure, I submit we cannot eradicate its extremist arms soon enough.

When you fight an enemy that has primarily NOTHING TO LOSE and, on the other hand, you have EVERYTHING to lose -- well, the odds look pretty stacked, do they not?

In my opinion this is not a war for territory or for obscure countries or for labels as such; it is a war for base philosophical differences: East v. West. Islam v. the West.

And trust me; Islam will NOT stop until you are dead or converted.

BZ

Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:10:00 PM  
Blogger dcat said...

Oh they will be dead!

Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:34:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

zeppelin,

Although I share a good deal of your criticism of Islam in general (not just the radical "jihadis"), there is a line in the sand I will not cross.

Muslim apologists and those in denial, as well as sympathizers to the jihadist (hirabahist) movement I am voraciously critical of, and stand with you on, 100%. But what troubles me is that we stand to alienate the good and decent Muslims who are out there, who don't want a "clash of civilizations." We do ourselves a disservice in the other direction if we refuse to acknowledge a distinction between "Islam" and "Islamists" (wahhabi/sulafi fundamentalists). There are many Muslims who do not want to live under Sharia Law; let alone, that it should be imposed upon western societies.

To say that Islam and the modern world are incompatible, is to deny 21st century reformation of the Islamic faith.

Political correctness makes me puke; but calling their Prophet Mohammed a child molester does nothing to civilize the discourse, and gain us allies amongst the Muslim world.

And in this war against Islamic terror, we need our Muslim allies.

American patriots such as Dr. Zuhdi Jasser absolutely believes in separation of Mosque and State, is highly critical of Islamists, and is a good Muslim, as he defines his religion. The Islamic radicals want Islam defined the way they see it. We should not help them legitimize their vision for Islam, by being manipulated by them into entering a "war of civilizations". It is what they want. It is not what is necessary, to kill their ideology.

That being said, I acknowledge this reality, as well. This war of ideas and hearts and minds is multi-faceted. How do we define "mainstream" Muslim? How do we define "moderates"? If Muslims such as Jasser are "out of the mainstream" and are the radical extremists as the fundamental wahhabists would have us believe, then we need to encourage the "fringe" practitioners of Islam to become the mainstream, and reform and redefine their religion, if it is to survive into the 21st century. Wishing to destroy Islam by bombing them into smithereens is even less realistic than rounding up 12-20 million illegal aliens.

Let's not become the religious bigots the liberal multiculturalists want to make right-wingers out to be.

Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:06:00 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

You remember the old phrase from WW2: "The only good Jap is a dead Jap."

Well, I don't think anyone today would see that for anything but what it was then: a complete overgeneralization of the evil of Japanese militarism.

Islamism is the problem in the same way that Japanese militarism or Nazism was the problem.

Plenty of Japanese and Germans were innocent hostages to the evil which destroyed their nations and scarred much of the world.

Come on BZ... think again and rephrase your remarks.

Meanwhile, I'm all in favor of killing every single one of the Islamist bastards wherever and whenever we find them. And that includes in Iran.

Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:20:00 PM  
Blogger MoveAmericaForward said...

Great job with your blogging in support of our troops who are fighting back in the war declared against the U.S. by the jihadists. I want to invite you and your readers to join us at Move America Forward as we launch our national, cross-country "Fight for Victory Tour" this September 3 - 15 ending in DC where we’ll have a rally with a collection of pro-troop groups including Vets for Freedom, Gathering of Eagles, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Free Republic, Protest Warriors and others. It’s a vital time for us to be mobilized and speaking out and it’s for such a just, worthy, noble, and pertinent cause. So let’s kick some butt and stand up to those who wish to force surrender terms upon our troops! http://www.MoveAmericaForward.org

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger Fade said...

Evil? good god, You people are clueless.

3800 dead us troopers. Five Hundred THOUSAND dead women and children in Iraq. Al Quada>? Wasnt there before Bushco sent in the troops. Halliburton makes record profits and MOVES TO THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES to AVOID taxes.

Mission Accomplished. And still you morons quibble. As we speak, tens die Because of an invasion for oil. America is NOW HATED 100 TIMES WORSE than pre-Iraq invasion. THIS is fighting terror? I dont think so. But hey, what do YOU care? Its not YOUR KIDS dying, its OURS. As long as taxes dont get raised, you are alright...

Fucking sorry ass rich republican bastards. I hope you all rot in hell

Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:42:00 AM  
Anonymous TCO said...

I think that the war we are fighting in Iraq is a poor choice. We are bogged down and wasting huge amounts of money (and moderate amounts of lives) for little real affect and at the cost of the will to pursue other options. Nation-building is not the way to go. We should instead take an isolationistic view with the exception of occasional meddling through intermediaries (as with Ethiopia/Somalia).

Right now, the right is so concentrated on justifying decisions and in political impacts of acknowledging wrong choices that they are avoiding doing so.

And I'm a served officer, in the reserves, who is ready to go (just volunteered but they won't take me). And I've voted the Republican ticket my entire life. I value truth more than "my side winning" though. And I think many on the right and left don't. We need to get the US out of its manna position and move to another corner.

Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:40:00 AM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

Fade: You sound like one of those children wind up dolls. You know, pull the string in back and the doll squeaks "HALLIBURTON, HALLIBURTON."

Give a rest loony tune. Your material is so stale, outdated and unoriginal a monkey with a typewriter would make more sense.

And "five hundred THOUSAND" dead Iraqi men, women and children? Surely your confused. That's just the tip of the iceberg of what has been uncovered in the mass graves Saddam was filling as fast as the oil for food $$$ money flowed in.

If you really cared about innocent Iraqis you would have been trying to stop the very REAL genocide that was going on in that country for decades and not continue this charade of lies supporting the terrorists who would make that death toll look like a picnic if you and your ilk succeeded in forcing us to lose.

In one word, you are an IDIOT!

Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:22:00 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

fade:
Go to hell.

tco,

Thanks for weighing in.

I think that the war we are fighting in Iraq is a poor choice.

I think there are good arguments to be made as to why Iraq was not the next logical choice in what I see as a real 21st century war against real enemies. Unfortunately, those arguments get mired in BSD railing.

But the decision was made. Whether you approve or disapprove of the entry into Iraq, we are there now. Many anti-war folk are still using yesterday's arguments to get us out of Iraq.

We are bogged down and wasting huge amounts of money (and moderate amounts of lives) for little real affect and at the cost of the will to pursue other options.

We are "bogged down"; but it's also an opportunity. An opportunity to make real, long-lasting changes in a region of the world that is strategic and which has not known freedom and democracy. It takes time and commitment. Not impatience, handwringing, and a show of weakness and lack of resolve- something the enemy capitalizes on, everyday.

Nation-building is not the way to go.

Normally, I would agree. But the security of Iraq has become intertwined with American security. What are the consequences of a premature U.S. withdrawal? Or even the perception of a U.S. defeat? Is it compassion to let what happened to the Vietnamese and Cambodians happen to the Iraqi people? Is it honorable, since "we broke it, we own it"?

We should instead take an isolationistic view with the exception of occasional meddling through intermediaries (as with Ethiopia/Somalia).

I strongly disagree. The days of isolationism is long gone. It will not make America safer.

Right now, the right is so concentrated on justifying decisions and in political impacts of acknowledging wrong choices that they are avoiding doing so.

That is in part, true; but it happens on the left, as well.

And I'm a served officer, in the reserves, who is ready to go (just volunteered but they won't take me).

Thank you for your service. I'm awaiting a medical waiver to serve in the NG, combat infantry. It's taking forever.

And I've voted the Republican ticket my entire life. I value truth more than "my side winning" though.

What you're implying is that our side, the Republican side, has been lying. I disagree, insofar as Iraq, Valerie Plame, and all the big media stories.

And I think many on the right and left don't.

I'm definitely partisan. But I still see where we lean toward which "truth" best serves our needs.

My reasons for party loyalty is due to values and ideology. I'm only loyal to the Republican Party, insofar as they best represent my interests, which I think is in the best interest of America. If the Democratic Party shared the same beliefs, values, ideology, I'd wear a big fat "D" on chest in a split second.

We need to get the US out of its manna position and move to another corner.

We do that by winning. We win, they lose. Even the perception of a defeat will only strengthen our enemies and weaken ties with those who have dared align themselves with us.

Monday, July 30, 2007 8:04:00 AM  

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