Tuesday, October 16, 2007

Softball with Crosby, Chris, and Nash

In our second story: Is the anti-war movement following in the footsteps of Vietnam, with protests in churches and in song? We‘ll talk to two veteran peace activists-musicians, David Crosby and Graham Nash.- Chris Matthews introduction on Hardball, Oct. 15
It amazes me how the peace movement learned nothing of the right lessons from Vietnam. They are proud of their service to the enemy back then; and desire to subject Iraq to the same treatment of abandonment in the name of peace: resulting in mass suffering and slaughter.

Why is it that liberals say they want "diversity of thought and opinion", yet are crybabies when criticized? I am sick of the Dixie Chicks, Springsteen, Norah Jones, Mellencamp, Neil Young, and all those other Hollywood elites whining about how their "freedom of speech" is under attack, because they dare to speak "the truth" that no one else will say. Good grief!

"Freedom of speech" does not mean you aren't free from criticism. Or is freedom of speech just a one-way street, exercised only by liberals? (If you're on a college campus, don't answer that).

Where and when did President Bush ever attack anyone's "patriotism"? It's another one of those paranoid, self-guilt-induced liberal strawmans.

It is also utterly laughable how these learjet liberals act the role of martyrs, as if they are somehow "courageous" for "speaking out" against the "Bush Regime" and risk defamation at the hands of the vast rightwing conspiracy.

This is what real suppression of freedom of speech is:
You never know how precious freedom of speech is until you meet somehow who has had it taken from them—literally taken from them. During a patrol we came upon two hungry Iraqi men scavenging for food. When our translator began speaking with the men I noticed that one of them had a stub for a tongue. Through the translator we learned that the tongue-less man had spoken against the regime and that Saddam’s henchmen had severed his tongue. Saddam had quite literally removed the man’s freedom of speech.
Here in America, those who denounce the war and criticize the Bush Administration are getting rich. Not persecuted by the government. So spare me the indignation and fear-mongering. It takes more courage to speak out in Hollywood for the war and on behalf of conservative ideology.

Isn't it funny how Ann Coulter can be smeared and slandered, having what she said misrepresented in the LATimes and by the cackle-fest on The View, yet not resort to the "my freedom of speech is under attack" whining?

Back to Chris Matthews and the two aging hippy rockers:
Nash: Who is asking the questions now? Only people like you and Keith Olbermann... and Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert, you know?
Stewart is a comedian. Colbert is playing a character. Olbermann is a comedic character. And these are the types who Nash is listening to for serious politics?

One of the most ignorant and disgusting comments made by David Crosby is when he talks about how the job of American soldiers in Iraq is to kill "mothers and sisters."

This is the only accurate part of the dialogue I can more or less agree with:
NASH: There‘s no draft.

CROSBY: No draft.

NASH: They‘re not dying by the thousands.

CROSBY: They‘re not directly threatened. There‘s no draft. If there were a draft, the campuses would catch fire overnight. And you know, it seems like a peculiar thing for us to say because we really don‘t want a draft ever, but if they go ahead and do it, it‘ll certainly crystallize the problem because then the campuses will go off.

This is the dirty little secret of the Vietnam era "peace movement". It wasn't a "peace" movement. It was an anti-draft movement. By the end of 1971, under Nixon, the draft ended. Major peace protests happened throughout 1968 through '71. The largest, most intense bombing of the war occurred in Christmas of '72 [Operation Linebacker II]. Any protests? Any peace movement marches? Not a peep. Because those protesting the war knew that they would no longer be called up to serve. Yet we're to believe that the "peace" movement were anti-war out of altruistic good conscience on behalf of the Vietnam people.

Listening to Crosby and Nash talk politics is like listening to children. Yes, we have yet to learn to teach our "children" well...

Transcript of Nash and Crosby on Hardball in 2005
(the more things change, the more they stay the same)

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Blogger Karen said...

You are absolutely right about the anti war movement in the days of the Vietnam war. In 1971 I was a high school student and remember the ending of the draft as many of my fellow students were dreading turning 18. Then another crystal clear memory I still have, to this day, is Nixon announcing the end of the war.

What are the brave, in their own minds anyway, anti war protesters risking today? I don't see any protesters chaining themselves to chain fences anywhere, I don't see Kent State type of protests on college campuses. It's nonsense. Just another way for ignorant Hollywood types to grab publicity and for groups like Code Pinko to raise cash.

Good post.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:59:00 AM  
Blogger J_G said...

Freedom of speech? The only one that has their freedom of speech attacked is Rush Limbaugh. Freedom of speech means the government cannot stop your speech. Seems to me that's exactly what the democrats in conress were trying to accomplish.

I don't have to listen to the drug induced, moronic blathering of the likes of David Crosby, Neil Young John Cougar Mellencamp or Bruce Springsteen or any of the others if we don't want. There is nothing stopping them from saying the stupid things they say. I have the right to criticize those morons for being wrong and sounding stupid.

They pulled the same thing back during Vietnam but most of us now were too young to do anything about it, I was 18 in 1975. Now the boot is on the other foot and it's my turn to stick it to the peacers.

Hopefully blogger will allow me to upload pictures of such today.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:09:00 AM  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Our freedom of speech should NEVER be abrogated. NEVER. I will STAND UP for the ability of the Left to SAY and WRITE what they wish. Short of shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre, I can feature very FEW instances where every LAWFUL CITIZEN of the United States should not be able to express their thoughts and opinions. When we restrict the Left from their F.O.S., we restrict ourselves as well. I also believe that the thoughts and opinions of the Left are sometimes BEST exposed in the light of day.


Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:18:00 AM  

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